# 70 Lakhs capital
**URL:** https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191
**Category:** F&O
**Created:** [July 11, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191 "2025-07-11T13:14:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@raghav\_chetan](https://tradingqna.com/u/raghav_chetan)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/26 "2025-07-12T06:26:48Z")
More risk = More reward
Why everyone is obsessed with fixed returns.
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### Author:  [@Champion\_Trader](https://tradingqna.com/u/Champion_Trader)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 6:42am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/27 "2025-07-12T06:42:59Z")
> [@raghav\_chetan](#):
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> More risk = More reward
Not necessarily š¤
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### Author:  [@cvs](https://tradingqna.com/u/cvs)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 9:25am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/28 "2025-07-12T09:25:59Z")
> [@VAMPIRE](#):
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> if i reveal it other will earn huge and i stay where i am now
Let us approach this situation from another angle.
For the sake of argument, let us assume that
you are aware of a strategy that reliably provides 1% per month returns.
Without disclosing the strategy
(since, you justifiably do not wish to be copied),
can you answer a couple of Qs?
**Q1**. How much volume can it sustain (and continue to provide the 1% returns)?
Can it handle 20K per month? Yes? OK.
How about 200Cr per month? No? OK.
So, at what volume in between 20K and 200Cr will this strategy stop working (no longer provide 1% returns), and why?
**Q2**. What is/are the guarantee(s) that the market conditions necessary for this strategy will continue to be present say 3 months from now? How about a year from now?
**Q3**. Also, can you think of and suggest any approach acceptable to you,
upon following which, someone with relevant expertise **can prove to you that** ,
the strategy you think will provide 1% returns, will not do so?
_(if not, then probably only way you can find out the issues with the strategy is to risk actual money, and if it doesnāt work out, find out why it did not by not making 1% per month returns)_
> [@VAMPIRE](#):
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> no worry December is not so far wait for my p&l
I am not sure that sharing oneās recent P&L (even if verified) achieves anything meaningful in this context as the strategies being deployed and the risks being undertaken are not evident.
The question isnāt -
~ _āHave you ever achieved 1% return in a month?ā_
nor is it -
~ _āWhatās the highest return one can achieve in a month?ā_
Rather it is -
~ _āminimum how much we can expect to earn per month in futures intraday tradingā_
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Amidst all the various directions in which this topic-thread is exploding,
the following question/statement drives the discussion towards
one of the (IMHO) more productive/actionable directions. ššš½
> [@Jason\_Castelino](#):
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> Are you saying 1 percent per month is not realistic.
No, not that at all. I vaguely recall discussions with strategies, and the market conditions and challenges associated with them, previously on this forum. Feel free to share a direct link if you can recall/find the exact topic-threads.
FWIW, 1% per month returns are NOT something spectacular that needs investing in derivatives or complex instruments/strategies. It can be achieved by investing in T-Bills, GSECs, SDLs in the secondary market, with the invested capital exposed to near-zero risk (sovereign guarantee). Been there done that.
Regulars on TradingQnA would be bored with this pitch of mine by now. š
Anyone hearing this possibility for the first time,
and wondering - What are the nuances and limits involved?
Search for past discussions on GSECs / SDLs / T-Bills in this forum.
For example **[this post](https://tradingqna.com/t/glit-fund-is-safe-like-buying-gsec-bonds-directly/181019/17)**.
@Jason_Castelino What i was (and still am) asserting is that,
in response to the original question that started this topic-thread,
> [@Prabhakaran\_N](#):
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> minimum how much we can expect to earn per month in futures intraday trading
ā¦the following comment
(especially from [someone who claims to not have 20K to trade](https://tradingqna.com/t/trade-other-people-money-with-power-of-attorney/184169/4)) ,
sounds like it is setting unrealistic expectations -
> [@VAMPIRE](#):
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> with 70 lakh atleast 1% a month u should get
Reading it again now,
perhaps a more charitable interpretation of the above comment could be as follows -
_"If one cannot reliably achieve atleast ā1% a monthā returns in futures intraday trading,_
_then it is not worth spending time in such pursuits, i.e. one can achieve as much (or almost close to that) with less risk and with less time/focus/effort spent on an ongoing basis."_
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### Author:  [@SpacemanSpiff](https://tradingqna.com/u/SpacemanSpiff)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 9:40am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/29 "2025-07-12T09:40:17Z")
> [@Jason\_Castelino](#):
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> He is saying 1 percent per month right. He is more reasonable than most traders.
yeah per month on avg we can do much better too. But see below.
> [@VAMPIRE](#):
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> bro 1 percent a month can easily get by investing in stock **even per day is so easy** if u have right strategy if i can do why not others
> [@raghav\_chetan](#):
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> More risk = More reward
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> Why everyone is obsessed with fixed returns.
Taking risk does not automatically get you rewards, so this can be true but is not always true.
Additionally, beyond a point, taking too much risk will lead to almost certain ruin, even with good edge. Equity curve is not a straight line in trading. Arbitrage and the like might be different.
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### Author:  [@neha1101](https://tradingqna.com/u/neha1101)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/32 "2025-07-12T11:12:00Z")
My SBI Nifty 50 ETF - gave a annualised return of 14.78% annualised since inception. Does this not mean more than 1% per month. Why is it not reasonable to expect 1% return a month on an average when you invest in stocks. 1% is 12% pa right
If this message is out of context, please let me know, I will delete it rather than get vamparised.
Garett Fort (Americal Short story writer) once said āThe strength of the vampire is that people will not believe in him.ā From the above post it is so true, why is everyone after Draculaā¦
Hope the Dracula does not come after you tonightā¦need to keep my eyes open for ābatsā on my mango tree, they sleep upside down.
(In Kerala we know Dracula more than Vampiresā¦) Just enjoyed the entire post and the reply and felt the exasperation.
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### Author:  [@ANKIT\_T](https://tradingqna.com/u/ANKIT_T)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/33 "2025-07-12T12:51:44Z")
I can guarentee 0.6 % per month. Just do FD of 70 lakh in any bank and relax. š
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://tradingqna.com/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/34 "2025-07-12T15:01:38Z")
@siva would really appreciate if this tread was closed. It was gone off topic
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### Author:  [@Akash\_Manoj\_Choudhar](https://tradingqna.com/u/Akash_Manoj_Choudhar)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/35 "2025-07-13T04:49:46Z")
Futures for instance is also a risky Job. Try option selling.
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### Author:  [@subbu\_setti](https://tradingqna.com/u/subbu_setti)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2025, 6:29am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/36 "2025-07-13T06:29:21Z")
Donāt focus too much on what others think is good/minimum return.
Investing in a small-cap fund may have returned 15-20% over the past decade doesnāt mean we aim for such returns.
Since we are risking our capital, the minimum expected return should beat the risk-free rate post-tax.
Suggest looking for strategies where you can stay sane emotionally and financially, even with market fluctuations. I think returns are secondary.
My sister makes the same amount of money as I do with a tenth of my capital. Risk appetite is different for people.
Sometimes benchmarking sucks and leads to unnecessary anxiety!
PS: Working on Sunday and frustrated, do not take my words seriously!
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### Author:  [@Rits](https://tradingqna.com/u/Rits)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2025, 7:58am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/37 "2025-07-13T07:58:06Z")
Firstly, Your expected ROI is not defined?
Secondly, Try options (1Lot) & equity (CASH Segment) intraday (less position size) for at least a year. Remember to forget profit/Loss in trade & focus on your execution. After 1 year of trade you can analyse what works for you.
TRADING PROFIT/LOSS is SUBJECTIVE .Everyone has different journey. Better check what works for you. Donāt fall for any strategy. If you canāt go full time consider Investment. Survival in Market is more Important than anything else.
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### Author:  [@Pradeep\_Jain](https://tradingqna.com/u/Pradeep_Jain)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/38 "2025-07-14T01:20:43Z")
Brother kaha se ap wese
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### Author:  [@Pradeep\_Jain](https://tradingqna.com/u/Pradeep_Jain)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2025, 5:24am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/70-lakhs-capital/184191/39 "2025-07-14T05:24:21Z")
Kaha se he bhai AP
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