[đŸ„‡Arun_Kumar_M ][POLL][20260413]Where will NIFTY close this expiry?

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SPY breaches ATH!

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Nifty finally in gap filling mode, when all indices elsewhere are hitting ATHs


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Israel, the USA, and Japan.

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Korea too. And that’s after like 30% yearly returns. Even HSI which nifty usually closely follows is up

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Will NIFTY fill the next gap(24143-24070) today?
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And today is SENSEX expiry too. Coincidence?

Or will the world follow again?

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Who knows? :grimacing: May be US markets also will be flat today. Everyday we should go in same direction? Then it would be very easy for traders na. 90 percent wouldn’t make losses.
I even booked some profits yesterday and somebody must have bought it yesterday. Without having conflicting opinions, trade is never possible. Also, I have bought a little today in this dip.
I don’t understand the need to nag about literally every move.

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You’re always misrepresenting my claim. My claim was never about going in the same direction as yesterday. It’s about going in the same direction as the world indices. And that was the case except as documented in last sensex expiry interaction and the current expiry as well. It doesn’t seem to be coincidence. Sensex seems more manipulated than nifty.

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And why should it go in the same direction. Why can’t it just be random?

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I’m not saying it should. I’m saying it does go in the same direction as the world for the past month EXCEPT on expiry and that’s what I observed in the expiries and that was documented here by me in the last two expiry. I’m just pointing out the obvious dissonance. Once is random. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Pretending everything is random won’t help anyone win the battle and in a real battle, the enemy would love for you to believe that.

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Cool. So next expiry let’s go against the trend in global markets and make a lot of money. :money_mouth_face:
Now that it’s documented here, I guess JS will read this and they will reverse again. Damn. :sleepy:

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You stole my sarcasm

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If they were predictable, how would they make money? We can only tell there is a deviation from normal market activity but not the direction or the magnitude.

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I am making money. So in my opinion the market behaviour is normal. I would say it’s not normal when I lose.

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Another level of sarcasm.

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Tell me how many times more your current return, you would make if you were able to move NIFTY by just 50 points on expiry.

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Never quantified. It’s not relevant too.
I am just saying the market is normal. I accept it the way it is than keep blaming every second person and factor.
For me if market goes to 18k it’s not normal. But even if we go there, I won’t blame anyone.

If I am into derivative segment I signed up for this game. Either follow the rules and play or just don’t play it. That’s my rule.

If I wanna play ipl I can’t say ipl is not normal because it has impact sub rule which isn’t there anywhere in the world.
What’s existing is normal.

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So if someone/group of someone was able to move NIFTY by say 200 points in 5 minutes on expiry and they use that to gain in options, that’s normal for you? Do you believe sebi shouldn’t flag or take any action against that someone/group? Are those the “rules of the game” everyone agreed to play by?

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If it’s against the rules then yes.

Are they having exposure in excess of what’s allowed by SEBI? If they are then obviously they should be penalised.
If not then it’s part of their strategy. How can you say it’s manipulation if they are playing by the rules laid down?

Honestly I do not know whether they follow the rules or not and I am not even supporting them. But I am saying it shouldn’t matter to us.
If you know this game is cheating why are you still playing it. Just don’t play instead of crying here it’s cheating cheating.

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I’m saying they are not. They can obviously organize to bypass any exposure restrictions.

It matters because the the moves you make depends on it.

I could say the same: why are you crying random random? If you can win even if people are cheating keep playing. if those of us who understand the truth chose to make it widely known, what is it to you? In my game view, you should accommodate and account for their cheating to play with better odds. Simply ignoring cheating doesn’t work. The entire world is rigged and you should play the cards given to you. You can’t quit until you die.

Tell me, how would “they” do that intentionally? It seems you yourself believe “they” move the cash market intentionally to profit from derivatives. Yet, when I say the same,

you always take issue with that. Is it because I used the word “Jane” instead of “they” or some vague term? Or do you believe it’s not against the rules? Or do you just want them not known publicly? Do you just want to give the illusion of a market where no one can move the index and there’s no manipulation? Why?