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[93% of cash market traders are in loss too,No one talking about that? Why?]
Will trolls of sebi and their bosses propose stopping cash market trading as the loss percentage is more than derivative traders?
Honestly they will not because they have already sold their soul.
Check this SEBI research report on equity intraday traders. The research is only about equity intraday traders; the PnL of equity swing traders or investors can be different.
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Partially disagree. If somebody is sharing views and acting like an expert giving targets, then when the view fails, he deserved to be trolled.
I donāt think this forum is for experts to give targets. For that there is moneycontrol. 
In moneycontrol we get 30k nifty, 5percent gap up, UC, LC, 16k nifty and all of it.
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I donāt think this forum is for experts to give targets. For that there is moneycontrol.
In moneycontrol we get 30k nifty, 5percent gap up, UC, LC, 16k nifty and all of it.
I feel like thereās some specific lore Iām missing. What I meant earlier is that when a trade goes against you the reaction is understandable but people should ideally moderate themselves.
yeah trolling in good fun should be tolerated IMO (that may just be my old reddit habits speaking haha, I thought I should tone it down in this forum)
Edit: I guess we should end it here since it isnāt really relevant to this thread.
For sure, you are. 
There are more than 19500 stories here. May be you arenāt updated with each one of them. 
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Are you referring me 
OK. So will they ban intraday equity trading , since most people are making losses?
I donāt know. I just shared this research report because you mentioned that no one is talking about it and the data you said that 93% of cash market traders lose was not matching with the SEBI report.
Also, I donāt think most people are losing in intraday equity since the data shows that among people with at least 3 years of experience, 46% are profitable, which is much higher compared to F&O traders.
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Data may be correct, but the meaning is probably different. Consistent traders who have been trading are likely the group that is trading CONSISTENTLY over 3 years BECAUSE they are profitable. So they have essentially dipped into a subset of winners. Selection bias!
Nevetheless data looks better than it does for FnO traders. But I suppose the top 1% winners win bigger in Fno.
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Yes, valid point. I didnāt think about it 
Youāre right. Hereās what I found in the research reports.
Equity Intraday -
FnO -
Though the average profit of profitable F&O traders is higher than that of profitable equity intraday traders, the average loss of loss making F&O traders is much higher than that of loss making equity intraday traders.
Hi the data was not mine , but shared in this forum by
So i thought as the sebi and their bosses are āsavingā poor retail expiry traders they should also āsaveā poor intraday equity traders.
No offence meant.
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Thatās Me, I still remember that data about loss percentage of traders on equity intraday ( had seen on breaking news of some channel), but idk now , the last data shared on that was for 22-23 and later I didnāt found any data regarding that, that 93% is for some cumulative loss of F&O trades only.
Sorry for publishing wrong data, Donāt mind on that!!!
But I still vouch for sustainability of weekly expiries.
Hope this gets clarified.
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Totally out of context but are you a real
Doctor? Your text doesnāt sound like that. @drsennath
Just asking out of curiosity
Yes i am .
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No worries, this is just a discussionā¤ļø
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@nithin as we can see according to sebi data, %of active individual traders which were in loss when only one weekly expiries were available in FY19 was 87% meanwhile right now when 2 different weekly expiries are available that number came around 91% recently. So i am curious to know whatās the sebi target here? How much they want to lower this 91% number? And when there was everyday expiry this number was 93% .Atleast as a broker you can question this to sebi officials, like whats their ultimate target?
I am saying this to you because sebi officials do not reply to such emails of retailers hence lacking transparency regarding the reasons of such actions like banning expiries. Atleast retailers deserve to know that what is the ultimate goal in sebi officials mind?
PS: Atleast this data confirms that no. of expiries doesnāt drastically affects the Total percentage of profitable traders in F&O segment
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@nithin what was this number of 91% fno traders losing money used to be in 2016 when there was just one expiry in the month? Any rough guess?
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I donāt have the data but think the ratio was same . It dosenāt matter how many expiry they reduce the result will be same, the one who has more money will win , as simple as that unless one takes a longer view even on derivatives . Even in US the ratio is almost same i guess .