# New margin framework is here - to benefit hedged positions
**URL:** https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652
**Category:** Announcements
**Created:** [February 24, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652 "2020-02-24T13:47:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 28
### Author:  [@maddy\_Des](https://tradingqna.com/u/maddy_Des)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/570 "2020-06-20T14:28:42Z")
The whole issue is regarding “new breed of traders” that @nithin so often mentioned wrt new margining policy.
We are being screwed by this.
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### Author:  [@IRA](https://tradingqna.com/u/IRA)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/571 "2020-06-21T07:15:10Z")
there is mwpl limit for the month of july also.
simple meaning you cannot create short position out of proportion to a certain percentage of underlying you hold
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/572 "2020-06-21T10:17:59Z")
I think it’s ending by the end of the series
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/573 "2020-06-21T10:21:43Z")
> [@siva-reddy](#):
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> There are few people who does only option buying, it is good for them.
Well no option buyer will want to purchase far otm when there’s hardly any chance of profits
It’s only to take advantage of the margin benefit.
Are you saying that we can short in Zerodha and long in orbis? I am sure it is not possible right?
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### Author:  [@st.kumar4](https://tradingqna.com/u/st.kumar4)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/574 "2020-06-21T12:21:54Z")
@siva-reddy, sorry didn’t get this point, can you please elaborate? How is Orbis beneficial for pure option buyers? I thought the idea behind Orbis route was to help hedgers.
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### Author:  [@siva-reddy](https://tradingqna.com/u/siva-reddy)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/575 "2020-06-21T12:26:52Z")
> [@st.kumar4](#):
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> sorry didn’t get this point, can you please elaborate? How is Orbis beneficial for pure option buyers? I thought the idea behind Orbis route was to help hedgers.
There will be no restriction on strikes, it will help both buyers and hedgers.
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### Author:  [@siva-reddy](https://tradingqna.com/u/siva-reddy)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/576 "2020-06-21T12:27:54Z")
> [@Joe\_Chris](#):
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> Well no option buyer will want to purchase far otm when there’s hardly any chance of profits
Unfortunately that is not the real case, few end up buying lots on OTMs, mere gambling.
> [@Joe\_Chris](#):
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> Are you saying that we can short in Zerodha and long in orbis? I am sure it is not possible right?
That is not possible in same account.
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/577 "2020-06-21T12:28:39Z")
Is there a detailed circular on the website so I can weigh the pros and cons
If possible I will opt for it, if not I will consider 5 paisa
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### Author:  [@siva-reddy](https://tradingqna.com/u/siva-reddy)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/578 "2020-06-21T12:29:43Z")
You can check [this](https://support.zerodha.com/category/trading-and-markets/kite-web-and-mobile/articles/trade-all-strikes).
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/579 "2020-06-21T12:30:11Z")
I am talking on behalf of the excited community of traders who are trying to understand if Z is any good for hedgers
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/580 "2020-06-21T12:30:23Z")
Thank you
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### Author:  [@jugador](https://tradingqna.com/u/jugador)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/581 "2020-06-21T17:56:58Z")
Don’t Zerodha need permission of those clients before shifting them to Orbis.
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### Author:  [@siva-reddy](https://tradingqna.com/u/siva-reddy)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/582 "2020-06-22T01:26:23Z")
off course yes, we move only those who are willing.
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/583 "2020-06-22T01:36:49Z")
Please can you publish a faq for those interested in orbis?
The circular is very generic.
What are the cost implications for the migration?
Are there any hidden fees?
Will everything remain the same as far as my relationship with Z is?
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### Author:  [@siva-reddy](https://tradingqna.com/u/siva-reddy)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/584 "2020-06-22T01:39:59Z")
You can fill the form, you will get a call, there are no additional costs, we still will be your broker.
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Chris](https://tradingqna.com/u/Joe_Chris)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/585 "2020-06-22T01:40:29Z")
Great
A ticket has been logged
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### Author:  [@partha1kundu](https://tradingqna.com/u/partha1kundu)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2020, 10:00am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/586 "2020-06-23T10:00:34Z")
Previous day there was no margin cap… suddenly again a cap… what’s happening? Will you continue to change? I have to move to some other broker…
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### Author:  [@Arpan](https://tradingqna.com/u/Arpan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/587 "2020-06-24T13:47:55Z")
@siva-reddy i got a text from your side that 102% of my cash is utilised
i had 60k extra cash in my account , secondly even though my position was in red it was hedged , this is the second time i’m getting this text , last time i raised a ticket, see i know that i have to exit the short position first , can you please tell me whats wrong
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### Author:  [@gaurav\_choudhary](https://tradingqna.com/u/gaurav_choudhary)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/588 "2020-06-25T04:50:11Z")
banknifty july future has lot size of 25 but 02 july weekly option is of lot size 20 …why this?@siva-reddy@ShubhS9
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### Author:  [@siva-reddy](https://tradingqna.com/u/siva-reddy)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://tradingqna.com/t/new-margin-framework-is-here-to-benefit-hedged-positions/70652/589 "2020-06-25T05:21:39Z")
> [@gaurav\_choudhary](#):
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> banknifty july future has lot size of 25 but 02 july weekly option is of lot size 20 …why this?
From july monthly it will be 25, before that it will be 20.
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