Shouldn't there be Nationwide protest against SEBI limiting retail traders exposure in Derivatives, linking to Income tax returns? Shouldn't we?


#44

You are 100% right. At the same time, 90% of the day traders lose money . In india , ratio %of speculative trading to investment is huge. It has been a govt’s head ache to reduce this ratio ( I believe).

Educating the traders should be the first step.

Regarding Efficient market theory … request you to go through “Come into my trading room” Dr Alexander Elder. (creator of Elder ray indicator)


#45

May be other solution is to open up solutions like https://www.topsteptrader.com/ so that people could discipline themselves before entering real markets.


#46

Dear All, Kindly register a griviance with PMO regarding SEBI proposal to link derivative exposure to income as per ITR.

Text - https://justpaste.it/1j7jm

PMO Greviance registration - https://pmopg.gov.in/pmocitizen/Grievancepmo.aspx

Just copy paste, and fill up ur mob no/email
that’s it

:slight_smile:


#47

Dear All, Kindly register a griviance with PMO regarding SEBI proposal to link derivative exposure to income as per ITR.

Text - https://justpaste.it/1j7jm

PMO Greviance registration - https://pmopg.gov.in/pmocitizen/Grievancepmo.aspx

Just copy paste, and fill up ur mob no/email
that’s it

:slight_smile:


#48

in google there are negative return by funds as under
in 1week
in 1 month
in 3 month
in 6 month
in 1 year
in 3year
in 5 year
in all period as above at least 5 funds have given negative returns.

THIS NEGATIVE RETURN IS BY SO CALLED EXPERTS MANAGERS.

where is SEBI if it wants to safeguard small investors?
TIME TO CALL SEBI?


#49

Done. :+1:


#50

Please read this …


PLEASE MAIL THIS ARTICLE TO SEBI !


#51

There should be more such articles in different business newspapers like ET, mint, etc… that will shape up some public opinions against such draconian diktats.


#52

Good article. She got the facts right.

Hope sebi reads this & wakes up


#53

As far as FNO is concerned, the risk is higher due to higher leverage. There’s no fraud, cheating or anything illegal in this. So there’s no reason to stop any retail investor from trading in these, due to his/her income. It is his money, and he has to learn the risks. Others have no authority or responsibility on his money. After all, sebi is not called upon to refund his losses, if he incurs. If at all sebi is serious about helping him, then they should educate him rather than throwing him out.


#54

haha nationwide protest…you must be joking,. Derivatives has screwed up life of lot of people & only big traders running algo etc make money so why are you guys opposing? our markets are at the mercy of these big players/operators & are completely manipulated. they should put a limit on the capital etc or fully ban.


#55

Was it the derivatives the real reason? Did anyone hold these guys at gun point and asked them to trade in derivatives? If someone is putting his money, let him better know what he is doing. There should be regulations only to the extent of risks of payout obligations not getting affected. More than that is infringing on his rights. As a matter of fact, excessive regulations of these kind only suggests the wealthy can lose their money, as they are being given the right just by virtue of their wealth, rather than they taking a well informed decision.
The right way would be to educate them and let them decide.
If there are manipulations in the market, that should be addressed first.


#56

@CoolBird Will you agree if I say that markets are falling because of SEBI and traders are going bankrupt ?


#57

If something is not good for the society it should be banned. for eg india took several years to ban some medicines which were globally banned long back. in this context derivatives need not be fully banned if traders oppose but need to put some regulations in place to control algo or may be ban institutional participation. i know nobody will do that as nse, sebi etc get huge revenue from institutional traders. see how systems like Kite & others behave during high volatility resulting into huge losses for poor traders. there should be some method to this madness or will result in chaos.