Traders! Unite Against Weekly Expiry Removal

What is your problem?

This is our livelihood. If you are very profitable in equities, please continue with that. Stop wishing to take our livelihood away.

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@Options_Spec @PeacefulTrader :thinking:Hey, I trade mainly in equities and I’m new to this. Could you please explain why shifting to monthly expiry might be problematic for option traders? What exactly will be affected, volume, volatility, or premium pricing? Thanks in advance!

Weeklies decay more for OS, weeklies can also move more for OB.

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Sebi should seek advice from market participants so that actual scenario will come under light.

Incresing awareness among public about derivative trading risks as well as creating contents regarding derivative trading should be the main priority.

Margin requirement for option selling and future trading should be reduced by removing span margin so that retail traders can afford option selling and become profitable rather than option buying which has lowest profitable probability.

Every indices should have weekly expiry so that market volume increases and give depth to market bcoz derivative trading give depth to stock market.

About manipulation, sebi should come with harsh regulations rather than a small penalty to a Big firm like jane Street. High penalty and ban period of 2 yrs for market manipulators should go with immediate effect. High penalty should be 2x of scam money or judicial imprisonment like rules should be implemented. Only then manipulation Will go down like market crash.

Stt charges should be waived off as every profitable traders give tax to govt.

Gst charges to services should be low ( 5 %) becoz retail traders are just like normal indian citizens.

Short term and long term taxation should be lowered so that India is still developing in economic terms and for this market should become free place and attract more FDI and hence market widens just like USA , EUROPEAN etc. markets.

There are many more…sebi wahi karega Jo uske dimaag me aayega…isiliye commission should be established to question every single move sebi takes which doesn’t seem fit to markets

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This is the need of the hour but Babus hates only retailers.

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All these points are valid but the regulator may never understand that the % of loss making retailers is and will be 80-90%, don’t think it’s lower in any other markets outside India.

The time a need for strong pushback was one year ago when consultation paper banning bank Nifty and other weekly options and increase in lot size, margin etc was released.

The need of the hour is to atleast save the last standing fort (Nifty Weekly), in whatever form it is right now. I don’t think the regulator will even think of any of the sensible points that @Ram2025 and others mentioned.

I’m unable to understand why the lobby of brokers and exchanges, that should have a reasonable say in decision making process, is not able to make understand these logical and rational points to the regulators given that their business is at risk too. It’s beyond sense why as per reports the exchanges recommended to outrightly ban weekly options, instead of suggesting more trader education on f&o or some sort of entry exam at max. Either these reports are fake or exchanges have lost business acumen/sense.

Per my understanding, a very small percentage of traders will stick to options if nifty weekly is banned or move to cash. A large majority will either shift to thinly/unregulated areas like crypto/forex or will quit trading entirely. It’s the brokers and the exchanges stand to loose the most.

The best what we can do is to hope that whatever and whenever the consultation paper comes, doesn’t include anything about banning nifty weekly and on product suitability framework, at most a qualifying exam to access f&o.

If there is anything more than this in the consultation paper which is restrictive, then the responses with valid arguments should be sent in thousands.

All said, people who are all in one trading and what to stay put, should start working on backup Plan B, on cash or any other instruments (considering the risk of under regulation in crypto/forex). Nifty Weekly will stay throughout 2025 for sure and possibly a few months into 2026, even if the regulator has already taken the final decision to ban it entirely. So there is decent time to work on Plan B, I believe.

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Bhai sbb milke Twitter pe trend karwate hii

Aur supreme court bhi jate hii …. Sb milke funding karenge … kya bolte ho

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Nothing will happen from these things, a lot of ssc students have already tried all of these things to get the fairer exam process, yet they got nothing in last 3 years. Infact their case was simple and easy to understand, forget the judges will even know what a hedge position is.

How can we unite against this …so that our voices reache the govt officials

Someone had raised this issue. It has not even got 500 signatures. You still think traders will unite???

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No use bro. THEY wont hear us.

Back in 2011, South Korea had the busiest derivatives market in the world. Millions of retail traders were at the table, chasing quick gains, But regulators got worried. In 2012, they raised the cost of trading nearly five times. Overnight, retail activity collapsed. From being #1 globally, Korea slipped to around 12th. Liquidity dried up, and the market lost its energy.

Now, regulators there are slowly easing rules again realizing they may have pressed the brakes too hard.

India is now where Korea once was one of the most active derivatives markets globally, with massive retail participation. The similarities are hard to ignore. The concern? If regulations swing too far, we could end up on the same road a quieter, less free market that takes years to rebuild.

Markets thrive on participation and energy. Risk needs checks, but over-restriction kills vibrancy. Korea shows us that once you lose that spark, it’s tough to get it back.

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Please explain this to sebi :sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

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Can you share the link?

I remember reading similar a few days prior to the previous SEBI board meet, this might be the old post, not applicable to the upcoming SEBI meet

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FNO weekly excpiry curbs, not part of the next meet
https://hdfcsky.com/news/sebi-board-to-consider-ipo-norms

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Not tomorrow but after discussion yes.
So clearly weekly is going to end, no clear statement that , weekly expiry will continue in future.

There is no Weekly Expiry in Fut