What has been your biggest mistake when trading? Your learning from it?

When you start assuming "MARKET WILL BEHAVE AS YOU ARE THINKING AND YOU LOOSE CONTROL ON YOU SYSTEM " and 2. when you get profit you become greedy and increase Position Size and now the turn of loss comes all the profit with you capital vanishes and when the loss occurs you have fear and your capital has reduced also you reduce your position size so now the turn of profit comes you get profit less than your loss . …i hink this is the main problem …

1.MISTAKE… I KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

2.MISTAKE…RISK MANAGEMENT

3.MISTAKE…WANT TO BE RICH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

4.MISTAKE…ILLINFORMED …AS IN OPTION SOME TIME THE WHOLE CAPITAL VANISHES

5.MISTAKE…IN SEARCH OF FINDING THE LOSS LESS STRATGY…IN MARKET MONEY COMES NOT FROM THE HOW MANY POINT YOU EARNED BUT ON WHAT POSITION SIZE YOU EARNED THAT POINT…

6.FINAL MISTAKE…WE DONOT KNOW HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH …100 POINT (7500/.) ON NIFTY ON EVERY MONTH …WILL TAKE YOU 100 TIMES AHEAD FROM FD RATES AND IF WE TRADE ON 1 LAC CAPITAL AND COMPOUND EVERY YEAR COMPOUND IT WILL BECOME IN 8 YEARS 1,28,00000/- MORE THAN (ONE CRORE )BUT IN FD ITS ONLY 200000 . BUT WE WANT THAT ONE CRORE IN ONE YEAR AND WANT TO BECOME WARREN BUFFET IN EARLY AGES…

           ITS A GAME OF PASSION WITH PATIENCE...........YOU HAVE TO ENJOY THE BOREDOM OF FREE TIME........TRY NOT TO USE THE FREE TIME TO DO EXPERIMENT FOR FINDING THE SYSTEM WHICH GIVES EXTRAORDINART RETURN...

THANKS

ANUJ V. AVASTHI

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1)After I short shares forgot to buy before market closes was one of the mistakes I did and got loss of 10000 3 times… I recently took zerodha and if we select MIS it will be autosquared at 3:20 pm which is

very useful to me… :slight_smile:

Risking big was my mistake. Lost 1.5 lacs in one day!

During the beginning phase, I use to trade with few thousands, take 10 times margin exposure, was able to make few 1000 rupees but after 2nd or 3rd attempt i end up losing all due to bad position size. Later, just like everyone, started learning about technical analysis, fundamental analysis but one important factor that i did not give much importance earlier was "Trading Psychology" which plays a vital role in trading. After few years, all I tried to do was "surviving in markets with my capital", i did not focus on earning higher profits, instead focused on protecting my capital.

This habit helped me in risking only 2% of my capital on every trade, due to which I was able to trade regularly - intraday and as well as positional. After I was doing decently well in equity cash segment, tried my hands on Option trading. 


I started learning option trading, there are multiple factors involved in options like volatility, theta, gamma, delta.., all these are Greeks and Latin to me. So did not learn about it, instead i just understood one concept.

If you expect the stock price to go down, Buy put option. If you expect the stock to rise, buy Call option.

So based on my little technical knowledge, i tried dabbling with options. I trade only with few 1000s, few times i made 5 to 10 times, most of the times i loss all.

During the quarterly result season, i noticed many stocks spike up or break down like anything. But we cannot judge the outcome of the quarterly results, so I started "Long Strangle" trades, it means, i buy both put and call option. After the results, the stock has to move up drastically or move down drastically to make profits with my trade. So i bought both the options, so that if the stock tanks then my put option will give enormous profits and if the stock goes up, my call option will give higher profits.

Say Rs.5000 i buy Put option and Rs.5000 i buy call option. Total investment is Rs.10,000. Most of the time, its OTM. If put options works,that is if the stock price goes down drastically after the results. then Rs.5000 on put option can become Rs.25000 to Rs.50000 and Rs.5000 on call option can go to zero(doesn't matter if i can make 10x returns on my total investment). Similarly, if the stock shoots up drastically after the results, then Rs.5000 on call option can become Rs.25000 to Rs.50000 and Rs.5000 on put option can go to zero.

I tried this trick many times(during my initial days, finding this strategy was a eureka moment - i felt like as if i found the holy grail-later realized how dumb i was :) ), and I was able to make decent returns most of the time.

Now the real shaitan started appearing my mind, if i could make good returns with lesser capital, then why not with higher capital. Infosys quarterly results was due next day. So i pulled in my savings money and bought call and put options for 1.5 lacs.

D - day

Next day, market was about to open, and before market opened the results was out, Infosys quarterly results was in fact good and meets analyst expectations, I was sure am going to make enormous profits on my call option, as the results was good, i was expecting the stock price to shoot up. And i started calculating in my mind, what should i do the profits.

As expected Infosys stock price opened with gap up, but the real shock of my life came when i checked my option price. Booom!! Both my call option and put option price tanked, my 1.5 lacs is down to Rs.50,000. For a moment I was like, whatthefuck!! When i was started looking for the reason for the loss, the options price started declining steadily and came down to Rs.20000. That's it. I realized, am screwed. Squared off the position and booked the loss and was wondering rest of the day what has happened.

Lesson learned: Options Trading involves immense knowledge, need to understand how option premium price works, should have good understanding on implied volatility, historical volatility, open interest, and so many other things. Only then its possible to be successful in option trading, until i learn all these i decided to stay away.



After many ups and down,and many years of learning, slowly and steadily I was able to make decent returns. Enrolled myself with NSE technical analysis courses, won couple of Zerodha 60 days challenge.

Completed Technical analysis module

Completed currency Derivatives module


Won Zerodha challenge with my trading strategy.


What I do now?

Finally created my own strategy, coded it and converted into 100% automated algorithm that will trade automatically without any manual intervention. As it was profitable, i started my own startup(www.squareoff.in), which is now specialized on providing these algorithm platform to retail traders who do not have time to do analysis due to their job. The Algorithm makes the trading decision for the investors.

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Nithin can you tell us who is the winner of last week?

The best answer selected here: http://tradingqna.com/40717/can-you-share-an-overview-of-your-trading-strategy C.D.Moorthy

Please tag this as contest

Winner is C.D.Moorthy

Nithin, in you question you have wrongly mentioned that this contest is ending on 2nd July. It must be 9th July.

Where are the results?

eagerly waiting for next contest.

tQA- trading Q&A, TI- technical indicator, RMS- risk managememt system, SL- Stop Loss.

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Lot of things I am learning from this contest. Thanks to Nithin sir for bringing such initiative. I am concluding this by this quote-
"Good things come to those who believe, better things come to those who are patient, and the best things come to those who don’t give up"
Happy trading. :slight_smile:

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Thank you STARFISH!!!

is this keltner channel

@Raja Solanki… No. It is a custom made one.

thanks… but starfish.!!!

Describe the rules in points like 1,2,3 and please describe simple charting techniques, that will be very very usefull for beginners like me ,

Many thanks Sarath Bhai…!!!

What is your Trading system, please share?

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