A quick run-through the PayTM IPO. Your takes?

India’s Biggest ever IPO opens today. Let’s have a runthrough the numbers and try and make sense of the signals amidst all that noise.

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Financials

PayTM has cleaned up its books a lot heading into the IPO, and it did have a lot of time to do so, as the IPO was supposed to be listed in 2020, but got derailed because of COVID. Losses have been significantly brought by aggressively cutting down the marketing and promotional budget, hence the “PayTM Karo” ads are as a result running less on TV and Youtube.

Ownership

Paytm is majorly owned by its foreign overlords in China and in Softbank. This heavy Chinese involvement has been a source of constant worry in PayTM’s bid to expand into Banking and Core Finance. This however isn’t exclusive to PayTM and chinese money has awashed Indian VC space for quite some time now.

Anchor Investors :

Major Institutional players buying into this IPO would be ofcourse Blackrock the company which owns the world, and some major pensions funds alongside National Funds of Singapore and Canada. So overall mostly FII run anchor book.

Valuations

PayTM is looking to raise Rs 18,300 Cr ($ 2.5 Bn) valuing the company at 1.5 lac Cr ($ 20 Bn). At this valuation, PayTM will be a top 30 company in India by Marketcap right at the day of listing. Ahead of Multiple successful Companies which have posted phenomenal results for decades. This by all standards is a huge ask by PayTM and it has nothing really going in for it to justify this valuation.

By all measures the valuation is too high for the company.The only advantage paytm has is it’s huge user base. After UPI, I don’t find many people using the paytm wallet and even the Paytm banking services are hit and miss as there are many Neo banks out there providing better service(Lifetime free cards and Free SMS alerts etc) than paytm bank. With all that being said I do use Paytm UPI as the transaction won’t fail much.

Paytm also has Paytm Mall which is dead- I don’t know who prefers it over Amazon/ flipkart or any other major online shopping app or ever will.

Paytm has Paytm Postpaid service in partnership with CLIX Finance and they charge 2-3% of fees over every transaction you do using it; unless you have Delight version.

Paytm partnerships with banks to offer credit cards but I don’t find them attractive (personal opinion) when compared to other cards in market.

They also have many other services like Personal loan, Insurance, Fasttag, travel and others. I guess they are OK. (Paytm Gold too)

Next comes Paytm Money which offers Mutual Funds and Stocks. I highly doubt that people who use Zerodha will shift to Paytm Money.

Then there is Paytm first membership and Mini apps. I don’t know about those as I never used them.

Considering all the above points and mad competition (Gpay, Amazon Pay, Bharat pe, Phone pe, Mobikwik, Freecharge, Payzaap etc). I think that the valuation is on the higher side.

All this amidst the general environment where startups which have been in business for years, are still unable to find any stable source of revenue/business model or identity, and just burning VC Money like years after years in search of dreams that one day suddenly they will have no competition and they can “focus on profitability” or maybe pass it down to the public through IPOs.

Please let me know your thoughts and wherever I am wrong with my interpretations.

Full Disclosure : These are my personal views I am not a Financial Analyst or anything, just another Trader.

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I am a beginner to stock market, but it looks like PayTM is very overvalued and it could dip in the long term (after the hype dies). Does any experienced trader share my sentiment?

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good post @MarginCaller

It is obvious that IPO market is hot now. But, if paytm lIsts at a premium of 15% or more. I’ll be very surprised. It should list with minimal gains and infact can go to discount as well

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I have been in the market for long enough. Whenever there is any largest IPO ever thing, it lists at a discount like coal india , Rpower and ICICI Pru

Hmmm interesting…

Retail isn’t fully subscribed yet

Fun fact : Paytm IPO begins on 5th Anniversary of Demonetization (Nov 8th,2016) which became a trigger for Paytm’s growth initially. Coincidence or not? we will never know :wink:

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Anybody who is interested to know subscription data, Can track real-time here: https://www.nseindia.com/market-data/issue-information?symbol=PAYTM&series=EQ&type=Active

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Paytm receives only 39% subscription so far. any chance this can be under-subscribed? please answer guys

Nope. Most Savvy investor apply only on last day.
It will be definitely fully subscribed, at least couple of times over-subscribed. (but not huge oversubscription)

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Coal India did not list on discount. It was issued at Rs. 245 and listed around 290 and went all the way upto 340.
Here are listing days stats:

And within 6 months of listing it crossed 400. After that its downfall started.

Just sharing some facts.

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PaytmIPO subscribed 48% on the second day of issue.

I have some paytm shares which i bought from ex-employee.
will i be able to sell my shares on listing day ?

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Paytm IPO fully subscribed?

The oversubscription of such IPOs means that either many people are still seeing value in this or that the entire market has gone insane. Then again market has the capability to remain irrational in short term. I still fail to see how PayTM will make money going from here and how value for shareholders will be made.

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I am going to bet on this, there are zero merits for such a premium IMO. I think it is just people going crazy over the IPO because everyone knows PayTM and they want a piece of it.

I was about to invest in it as well to cash out on the mostly inevitable initial bull run but I was afraid of how short it could be. Better be safe than sorry.

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hats off to whoever posted that it can list at discount