ETFs VS Index Fund: Where Should Investor Invest?

ETFs and index Funds are two of the popular forms of passive investing. ETFs can also be actively managed, but for the sake of comparison, we will only consider passive investments. The advantage of passive investing is the simplicity it offers, such that you do not have to choose from the plethora of investment options. These simply mirror the holdings/ weightage of an index or an exchange. This article will give you an insight into how do these two differ in terms of expense ratio, flexibility, or liquidity and where should investor invest?

An index fund is a passive mutual fund that aims to achieve capital appreciation by imitating or replicating an index, such as the Sensex or Nifty. The objective of an index fund or an index ETF is to passively replicate or mirror the index in terms of its portfolio composition.

For instance, if the S&P BSE SENSEX contains 11% of HDFC shares then the index fund will also contain the same proportion of HDFC shares.

ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds) comprise shares that follow an index such as NSE Nifty 50 or BSE Sensex. As the name suggests, ETFs can be bought and sold on the stock exchanges. There are some new generation index ETFs based on popular sectors such as S&P BSE Auto, or FMCG, banking and healthcare.

Let’s understand the parameters where ETF and index fund differs:

  1. Timing the Market

Investing in ETFs can be an advantage if you can take the opportunity of the price movements that occur during the day based on your analysis of the market or the index.

In contrast, Index funds are suitable to those who do not require extensive tracking and anticipate performance that is in line with the market returns.

  1. Flexibility

ETFs are considered more flexible than most index funds.

ETFs can be traded on exchanges intra-day, like common stocks. You can buy ETFs at your convenience.

You can buy Mutual funds units by placing a request with the fund house either online or through RIA or through a distributor.

  1. Liquidity

You can trade ETFs more easily than index funds as they can be redeemed or sold anytime during market hours. Their market price is available in real-time just like common stocks.

An index fund, on the other hand, can be redeemed only at the end of the day’s NAV (Net Asset Value). NAV indicates the price per unit of a mutual fund.

  1. Ease of investing

Index funds are a good option for a first-time investor or if you are looking for ease of investing because you do not need to research.

Index Funds also offer you the option of investing through an SIP (systematic investment plan). This gives the added benefit of compounding your mutual fund returns with time and rupee-cost averaging which allows you to average out your cost of investment. They also offer the benefit of STPs (Systematic Transfer Plan) or SWPs (Systematic Withdrawal Plan).

However, index funds come with a tracking error. Index Funds tracking error indicates how much the fund performance has deviated from the benchmark index. Tracking error occurs in both scenarios; i.e. outperforming the index and underperforming the index.

Since ETFs trade like a stock, you can easily refer to the price change using the ticker symbol and compare it with the benchmark or commodity.

  1. Professional Fund Management

A fund manager of an index fund keeps track of any changes in the weightage of stocks. He /she creates a portfolio that mirrors the index performance as closely as possible. Tracking error occurs in both scenarios; i.e. outperforming the index and underperforming the index.

Since ETFs track an index or a commodity, it does not need professional fund management.

  1. Expense Ratio & other charges

If you are investing in an ETF, you may need to incur the DEMAT account’s annual maintenance charges and transaction charges with a marginal expense ratio.

Index funds come with a relatively higher expense ratio and exit loads in case you withdraw the mutual fund units before a particular timeframe.

  1. DEMAT Account

IF you want to invest in ETFs, you need a DEMAT account. However, when investing in index mutual funds, you need not have a DEMAT Account.

Choosing between index funds and ETFs depends on your preferred investing style, goal and risk profile. ETFs may offer relatively lower expense ratios and greater flexibility, while index funds simplify the decisions an investor has to make. On the other hand, if you are trying to take advantage of the opportunities of the market movements, you can consider investing in ETFs.

Not every ETF/ index fund may be suited to your goals. When investing in sector-specific funds, you need to take into consideration that these funds address a limited universe.

As an investor, you might choose to invest in an index mutual fund and add ETFs that invest in assets or sectors to diversify your mutual fund portfolio. Both index funds and ETFs are good for long-term investing.

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@Quantum_AMC Ajit Dayal doesn’t believe in Index Funds. Watch a recent interview where he mentioned that even Jack Bongle had told him that he won’t invest in Index Funds in India. I have emailed him if he can share the email transcript or tell us more about why he said what he said. Awaiting reply.

Watch 21 minutes 53 seconds onwards.

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I received a response from Ajit.

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I googled to find the Youtube link he mentioned in his email.

Watch from 56:25 to 1:00:06.

Again, he is saying that the way Index funds are constructed in India is very different compared to a Vanguard Index Fund is the US. And that’s why he won’t invest in Index fund in India.

@nithin Can you please share your thoughts on this difference between India and US index funds? I am tagging you because I have read a few articles which say Zerodha is keen on becoming the Vanguard of India.

Also, In another thread, I had asked you if the Zerodha AMC would be held by the units of the funds as how the Vanguard structure is, that I read. So in short the AMC company Vanguard is owned by its funds. Is that what Ajit is talking about or there is more to it?

Apart from Ajit, the other person whom I read is against Index funds is Michael Burry who considers index funds a bubble like subprime CDOs.

Hi @rupeshmandal, still early days. A lot of moving parts, we will share more once we have clarity and are ready to make a public announcement.

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@nithin Both you and Ajit gave me a cryptic response. :sweat_smile:

Regarding emailing Ajit to dig deep to find out why he said what he said about the Index funds is because I have watched his many interviews, read his articles, and something that caught my attention is -

  1. how he said that sovereign gold bonds are not diversification in the true sense because there is no underlying physical gold and govt is the guarantor, which defeats the purpose of gold as a hedge. If you go by the book of investment. In his words, you don’t take fire insurance from the same person who may cause a fire.

  2. He is swimming against the stream. The black sheep. Quantum Long Term Equity Fund never had Reliance in the portfolio. The largest market cap company in India is not in his portfolio. Not even during the 2020 bull run, when Reliance was in media so much for the foreign investments. Upon asking, why no Reliance, he had said that he has doubts about the corporate governance of the company and many issues with how it works and the true intentions of the company towards the shareholders. He had said it during a zoom session, but the AMC when it published the video on youtube, edited out that portion because of compliance. Even there I had emailed him why was the video edited out. Waited for two months to get a reply. He had explained to me that the AMC took the call for compliance. I have not heard of any other fund or AMC rejecting Reliance to have in its portfolio while others were latching onto it. That’s why I was intrigued by his words, finding him different from the crowd, and wanted to listen to his issue with the index fund, the way it is constructed. But if you watch his videos above, there was no definite answer here.

I asked you too if you can help decipher the construct of index funds in US vs India and what could be the reason for him keeping it one arm distance (apart from AMC would earn less TER) but you too left me guessing. :innocent:

AMCs always downgrade index funds where they get minimum expense ratio. And fundamentally both etfs and funds are having same underlyings. Based on individual preference(charactertics from OP) one can choose between ETF or funds.

Cryptic because I am still not sure myself. :slight_smile:

Found a video from December 2020 where Ajit read the content of his email to John Bogle dated Feb 2010 and the response he had received. https://bit.ly/2Thf2Hi

Ajit says he believes in passive investing but mentions the following drawbacks of index funds in India in their current shape and form:-

  1. High churn of an India index (compared to US indices) => adding to cost of churn for index fund mirroring the index, leading to tracking error.

  2. Index is backward-looking i.e. picking yesterday’s winners.

  3. Standard Deviation is not risk. Index ignores the corporate governance risks. E.g. Index could not avoid Satyam, Yes bank .etc.

  4. An active fund can exit a bad stock quickly compared to an index fund.

A snapshot of the content of the email that was exchanged between Ajit and John Bogle.


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well that didn’t age well :sweat_smile:

https://tradingqna.com/t/highlights-from-spiva-india-scorecard-2021-on-the-performance-of-active-mutual-funds-vs-their-benchmarks/129750?u=raoawesome

Can != Will
Human beings (with perverse incentives) are always the weakest link in a system. :sweat_smile:

The study in the above linked topic just shows that some MFs exceeded their benchmarks and others didn’t.

:100: Agreed that MFs are NOT always better than ETFs.

Well I don’t think people are going to check fund managers history , performance and credentials, besides its very hard to say which fund manager of Mutual Funds is gonna outperform their bench marks and would be worth the expense ratio. Overall I think ETF’s are crushing the Mutual Funds industry.

SIP in Index fund is always the better choice… No headache of looking at iNAV everyday and trying to buy at low price… also liquidity issues.

For long term investing (10-15 years). Index funds are great choice… Index fund SIPS+bank mandates… login and see again the coin app after 10 years

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Equity does not work that way. There is a lot of volatility in equity unlike fixed income products. What you say works for a compounding product like PPF, invest as per the limit, after 15 years go to the bank, and be surprised of the excellent amount that you are going to get. Equity on the other hand is volatile, this volatility is the very reason why it gives a chance to beat inflation over the long run, but not YoY, year over year. Equity returns are not linear.

For reasons beyond any single one of us, there is a very distant possibility that the stock market will not move anywhere in the next 10 years, or even if it moves up for 8 years, it falls down in the next 2 years, nobody knows. It happened in Japan 3 decades ago with Nikkei index, the top Nikkei reached in 1989 is yet to be seen even after 33 years.

Not that one should check NAV everyday, but not checking the investments for longer periods of time is also not advised. MF investing either active or passive, if it is for a financial goal, then one can check periodically to see how the goal is progressing, if there is profit or loss, how much time time one still has for that goal etc. So SIP or lump sum, active or passive, one should be clear about the reason for investing, return expectation etc.

On a lighter note, Zerodha may not exist after 10 years, even if it does, it may not exist in the same form as it is today, no one can tell.

I would not have replied, if not for that checking after 10 years thing.

Doesnt really make much of a difference if you want to track the index via ETF or index fund MF


I believe you can always contact AMC to redeem your ETF incase you are not able to sell in market.

whether a ETF is trading at premium or discount both are very short lived. I think people should be aware to compare inav and ask-bid price and get a nice price. Even then the spreads are not really big that any extra profit can be made. There is one thing too, doing DCA with index etf is way easier than index fund. The expense ratio is very less in ETF compared to index fund. Anyone would prefer index ETF over index fund.

They have been under negative interest rates for quite a long time. people there have a habit of hoarding cash, don’t spend as well and their population is shrinking. Not a great economy in first place. Its not same in india nor us for that fact.

That’s why we have gold in our portfolio. Well you cannot say nothing will move in next 7 to 8 years. Mostly equities will definitely move or if we are in recession or even depression gold moves. Its that simple. why is that so? cause the central bank does QE i mean…prints money to create inflation either way.

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I gave Nikkei example as a remote possibility and in a context. Equity is volatile and does not work like debt was my point.

Gold too is a volatile asset. Equity is relatively better if we bring gold into the picture, at least there is some math that can be done with equity investing, profits, earnings, cash flows etc, not with gold.

Different asset classes behave differently under difference circumstances. Knowing their place is required for long term investing, of course one can try and become very good at one particular asset class or one type of investing, that is a different subject.

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