Margin for Vodafone Idea all over the place

Hi Zerodha team,

Since some days, Vodafone futures were carrying a margin of around 3.2L per lot, up from about 2L per lot that was last month.

But yesterday, the margin required was again down to 2.2L, and today it is again up to 3.2L. Can someone check what is going on? There was no fresh increase in volatility yesterday, so why this move? Or is it something Zerodha has imposed from its own side?

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@Adarsh_Patil ++

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The increase in margin requirements is from two factors. First, the stock has appreciated significantly, rising from ₹8.85 to ₹12.04, an increase of approximately 36%. Second, the total margin requirement itself has increased modestly, from 37% to 38.75%.

Here’s a comparison :upside_down_face:

November 1st:

Scrip Rate Lot Size Margin % Amount Exposure Margin % Exposure Amount Total Margin % Total Amount
IDEA ₹8.85 71,475 31% ₹1,95,126.75 7% ₹44,278.76 38% ₹2,39,405.51

Today:

Scrip Rate Lot Size Margin % Amount Exposure Margin % Exposure Amount Total Margin % Total Amount
IDEA ₹12.04 71,475 30% ₹2,58,024.75 8.75% ₹75,298.91 38.75% ₹3,33,323.66

You can see that the margin has increased from approximately ₹2.4L to ₹3.3L per lot

We have not charged any additional margin from our end; we are simply blocking whatever the exchange requires. Yesterday’s margin was also above ₹3 lakh.

Yesterday’s Margin Requirement:

Span Scrip Rate Lot Size Margin % Amount Exposure Margin % Margin Amount Total Margin % Total Amount
IDEA ₹11.87 71,475 30% ₹2,58,024.75 7% ₹59,388.58 37% ₹3,17,413.33
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Thanks @Adarsh_Patil .

I guess it is the exposure margin going down from 8.75% to 7% just for one day (yesterday), and now back to 8.75% which caused the variation in my calculations of the margin requirement. Thanks for the explanation

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GPT reply can be so wrong … community has my respect :saluting_face:

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And today the margin has shot up to more than 4L, without any increase in the volatility of Vodafone Idea. What is the exchange smoking? Any idea why this has been done?

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I don´t see the stock being in any short or long term ASM framework either. @Adarsh_Patil can you please shed some light on this matter. Thanks

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Due to MWPL margin increased further. Can refer to this circular.


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It is sad that Zerodha did not send any alerts on this matter, if it was known in advance. 15% extra margin is a lot and one could have planned the yesterday´s rollover in a better way keeping the margin requirements in mind.

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Guess that’s a good thing. Idea in LC after good news.