They are also report of thresholds.
If theu frame it : minimum of 10-15 Lakhs income or 25 Lakhs networth, then majoring of retailers would be removed from the market.
THIS IS THE END OF RETAILERS IN INDIAN MARKET
They are also report of thresholds.
If theu frame it : minimum of 10-15 Lakhs income or 25 Lakhs networth, then majoring of retailers would be removed from the market.
THIS IS THE END OF RETAILERS IN INDIAN MARKET
I am stopping weekly trading from today.
Dont want to trade in this uncertainty. if i make losses no chance to recuperate the loss if they ban it suddenly.
Backtesting for monthly expiry, i dont feel it is accurate either in stock mock or algotest.
What does networth actually mean as far as sebi is concerned?
Your assets, like savings, investments etcā¦
Even monthly will not be avaliable to retailers. All of us will be effectively banned from F&O and pushed towards long term investment
Shares of the Bombay Stock Exchange Ltd. (BSE) and Angel One Ltd. fell up to 5% on Thursday, September 11, after a CNBC-TV18 exclusive with regards to the weekly options expiry.
Sources told CNBC-TV18 exclusively that the SEBI is likely to float a consultation paper within the next month to consider ending the weekly F&O contracts, and that the plan is to transition to monthly expiries, with a defined glide path.
This is pure anarchy from SEBI and the government. Complete manipulation.
Soon trolls of sebi and their bosses will come running here and āeducateā us about the dangers of weekly expiry, and how sebi is saving retailers by doing this.
Another possibility is, this is a drama to increase STT.( That is to save retailers: of course)
This news was already there, most of the people knew it that in tomorrow meeting this will not be discussed
as I noted in my comment above 4 days ago
People who are expecting companies to pass on the GST savings to consumers and that will in turn drive consumption (and thus GDP) higher are way too optimistic and naive IMO.
who are they fooling - everyone pays via UPI only nowadays and it doesnāt matter if itās not a nice round number.
you expect me to believe that companies would rather spend millions on R&D to resize their product packages and branding instead of pocketing the difference/padding their margins? It wouldāve been more efficient to keep the same packaging and reduce prices if the intention was really to pass on GST cut benefits.
I hope itās just for hedging and ALM
Well at least one of these commentators definitely seems to be a sebi troll.
Once I pay taxes and have the leftover deposited into my account its up to me to decide what to do with the money. Some may call FNO trading a waste of good money. Others may think an international trip may be a waste of money. Others may think a 60L SUV is a waste of money. To each his own. Why is SEBI or any authority in the business of trying to regulate or dictate what people do with their money?
And for smartasses who comment that we voted for this, my answer is no. We voted for better infrastructure, less pollution, better standard of living, better defence, better law and order etc.
We didnt vote for someone to come in and tell us what to do with our own hard earned money. If I want to make a bonfire and set it alight. Its my wish and the govt has no business trying to dictate what I can do with it.
In a similar vein 90% of startups and new businesses fail. So now the govt will dictate that people cannot start new businesses? What crazy logic is this guy promoting?
This troll does not realise that at this rate sometime in the future govt will even dictate what food he can buy and what he cannot. Or where he can travel and where he cannot.
Its a free market. Keep it that way. Those who put in the time and effort will make profits. Those who dont will lose. Even in the spot market many investors lose money because they try to time the market. I have personally seen people lose 90% on stocks like jet and yesbank because they refused to cut losses and exit. So next would be to ban retailers from the markets completely? Only 4% FDās for us?
100%. I wish i could block this guy. Heās the most insufferable person with the most amount of free time on this forum.
@ShubhS9 is there any way to block people so that they canāt see or comment on my posts and neither can i see any of their posts/ comments.
Not aware of the former on this forum/Discourse,
but the latter is possible by visiting the userās forum profile
and choosing the Ignored option.
This is just an individualās opinion.
SEBI is not going to read this and decide - āAh Yes. Good point, letās do it.ā
No.
Sharing this here with the hopes thatā¦
a. ā¦some of the mischaracterizations of the previous post arenāt assumed to be accurate.
b. ā¦this thought-process sparks some alternate critical-thinking, which can enable one to explore the opportunities, irrespective of how triggering/disagreeable the situation maybe.
Agreed.
Because they are the regulator of the market.
They are the reason it is āfreeā. More on this below.
Agreed, if interpreted like this. Yes, we did not directly vote for this specific regulation.
However, that (fine-grained control over each decision) is usually not an option in a Representative democracy - Wikipedia , a limitation that others before us have adopted, and we inherited and have continued to collectively accept, due to the other advantages available in this system.
IMHO, that is already the case. (and has been in parts all along), if we look around the world that we accept as normal and are even happy about it. However, what is prohibited (and what is permitted) happens to satisfy the majority and hence there is no overall civil unrest.
Are there pockets of unrest due to the restrictions in these other aspects as well? Yes.
IMHO, it is easy to say āfree marketā,
but hard to agree upon a universal definition that satisfies everyone , all the time.
Most demands for a āfree marketā end-up being requests to only regulate exactly what one agrees with, and ignore the rest.
So whenever one feels a market is not a free-market,
itās worth keep in mind
to check whether this feeling is due to
one disagreeing with how the market is being regulated.
IIUC, this is a significantly different scenario than the derivatives market,
as 90% of the participants in the stock markets arenāt net-negative (AFAIK).
So, the logic/justification applied to the derivatives market,
(whether correct or wrong) would not be applicable here.
If you read this post in its entirety, and are strongly feeling that some parts of this post are wrong, or it overlooks some key aspect, but you donāt have the time (or donāt feel that this post deserves a proper response), please do react with a so others who may come across this post can realize that there is something wrong (even if not exactly what/why).
Alternately, if you read all this, and can provide any logical counter-arguments,
please do respond in the thread,
or if it is something specific but off-topic, then start a new thread.
banning retailers from trading because people like jane street running illegal trades is = banning people from using street because someone got killed, but letting killer roam free.
This also shows how sebi think of indians, they think indians are idiots they cant figure out stock market. if people at sebi have 4 braincells they will understand that they are loosing money because of people like jane street.
instead of building infrastructure to catch these illegal trade to protect traders, they straight out banning common people from market.
Yes you are correct , and also this is a typical Indian mentality , i tried to reach PMO grievance , but every time i am getting a reply from an IAS babu , stating that . forwarded to SEBI for further action , so the IAS Babu work on his fantasy only. .
After many attempts i stopped and trying to adjust to , the available options only.
Hi,
Are there any recent news that sebi is banning retailers from market?
Last I heard there are planning to remove weekly expires.
Is a blanket ban a recent news?
āThe consultation paper is likely to propose curbs to reduce retail participation in the F&O segments, by suggesting thresholds for participation, sources said. They added further that the steps to reduce retail F&O participation will be practical, enforceable, and difficult to evade.ā source
which means they will ask to show proof of x level of income to participate in fno.