Yeah, but maybe its a bit too much these days.
One can work on something for years and have it taken away immediately.
You will feel it more if something happens that directly affects you.
When I was in college I had a bike. It was fun to ride without a helmet. And then came the rule that helmet is compulsory. It affected me very badly because I couldn’t show my face as I entered college gate. Now I had two options. 1. Come by public transport. 2. Wear a helmet.
I chose to wear a helmet and even lost my hair. 
Bowlers didn’t like the rule of free hit when it first came. Did they quit cricket?
Then came two bouncers per over. So batsmen stopped playing cricket?
I don’t like markets going up everyday. What can I even do? Call this market a scam and go away or play along?
Zerodha had promised me last year to get instant unpledge within a months time. They didn’t. Now I can stay here or move to some other broker. I can’t keep abusing them here. Nobody has forced me to join Zerodha.
So it’s not about whether a particular rule has any impact on my life.
Even after we discuss so much over here, what has to happen will happen.
So relax and wait for the changes. 
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And now I feel I am also simply replying without any purpose. Okay Tata bye. 
Data says Long Term investment works best, ban redemption of MF before 5 years, Sabka Vikas tabhi hoga. Modiji ki jai! Nirmalaji ki b jai!
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If its so smooth and every one makes money ,… thats not how zero sum game works.
No matter what there must be losing side.
the guy was mentioning that in USA , intraday options are not allowed… was mentioning him.
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Bhai , i am focusing on long term investment only, if i can make 2% per month in option trading thats fine - option buying in expiray day is pure gambling, SEBI also no need this type of gambling in Indian market
Siva already told - intraday is not in option - it’s in equity
option is for hedging our portfolio - without underlying asset people are fency buying option in weekely basics -
SEBI will clearly increase lot size no doubt - in coming year definitely STT will increase gradually 4x
gradually weekly option trading will be high cost - SEBI is working on this
this is not rumor - SEBI clearly following the developed market rules - Indian market need to follow the developed market, this kind of rules definitely needed time to time
thanks bye
Yes not allowed in my account , if you have more then 25k sure you can - if you make continue loss - broker can revoke the segment also
Naked option buying is not allowed in my account - i am allowed only hedged option strategy in ( Level -3 , in those spread 2 level )
you buy put option only you can buy asset on that price otherwise naked buy option is not allowed in basic account - below 25k
In developed market ,there is no STT , gst , stampduty , So why sebi is not following developed market rules here.
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Also there is daily expiry day , will it follow ?
never compare with tea with coffee
charges are related to government finance subject
rules are made for public safety - its will follow like road signs all over the world
yea so tell me about daily expiry in CBOE.
@vishnux Wait for SEBI rules, its will come October - every year they will follow - one month wait you will get clear picture
whatever , Only thing thats good is stop the small retailers who has capital less than for example , 5 lakhs etc , can increase lot size.
Other things will affect the profitable option traders.
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5 years is not long term. Have seen 5 year windows with equity returns less than FD. So lets make it 10-20 years. It should be a journey without destination ideally.
Index investing hai, so money goes to adani companies also, at whatever price it goes to with low float. Full nation building bhi ho jayega, this is Gujrat model of development.
Sorry, just for fun. 
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2024: SEBI increases contract size to 20-30 lakhs, to protect retailers.
2025: Retailers are only allowed to trade in Futures and Options if they have underlying exposure. This is to protect retailers, of course.
2026: SEBI will tell retailers which specific option contract to buy/sell and when, and retailers are only allowed to do that. SEBI knows what is best for you.
2027: All fund houses are banned and SEBI will directly manage funds of all retailers, because SEBI knows which are best stocks to buy and sell and when. SEBI also knows best when and which F&O contracts to use to hedge the funds of retailers.
2028: Politburo… I mean, SEBI will realize that markets lead to more inequality, and that cannot be allowed. All stock exchanges will be banned, to protect retailers, of course.
2029: SEBI will ban the Rupee, because if there is no concept of money, then retailers can’t lose money. People will directly barter with each other from now on.
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” - Karl Marx and SEBI
SEBI knows what’s best for you
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yes long term means 10 to 20 years then only we need to enter in equity
i Am investing for Life Long (perpetual) Infinity of years passing to next generation only mutual fund
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Yes. Justification to impose 20% LTCG in next budget, including those who redeem in less than 10 years. All for the betterment of investors 
Sabka Saath, Sabka JHAKAAS 
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no i will do SWP small amount, if i need otherwise let grow