from Aug. 2023 to Aug. 2024 my profit is almost 98% from all account
simple calculation is from option 53 %- from mutual fund 47% - in some of my mutual fuund give 80 to 98% also - average i take 47% combine bond , gold , momentum , and small cap. midcap , multicap
this is the way of professional hedge option strategy - what professional do , i will copy the same
let assume i am putting option profit 45 lakhs in mutual fund for next 15Years - no one intraday traders will come near to my wealth
i will never put extra money in any types of trading - i will trade ony upto 1 cr only - MF will do compounding job - ,
exactly , you proved my point, if u trading with 100 lots, what will you do if volume is dried up . imagine the liquidity of sensex next week options , does that look good ?? that will happen to nifty and banknifty if intraday is not allowed.
It’s a matter of perspective, this data means 30% of Intraday Traders in Equity cash segment make money.
Only 20% of the startups survive more than 5 years. And 8% survive beyond 10 years.
Govt might consider looking into that too.
In Trading as in life the majority can’t win. Else, winning wouldn’t mean what it does.
Anyways, We have to trust the wisdom of the regulators to protect the investors.
@nithin How long before SEBI goes after MTF ? That’s sort of taking leverage on a loan.
Considering you are working on a MTF product since years that might be a concern.
Changing regulations to restrict expiry day option trading could have addressed the problem.
Like they could have made it a percentage of account value for option buying or a minimum account size of Trading 0dte options.
The current changes will just encourage expiry day traders to Trade with bigger lots.
That increases their losses as chances of Option Buyer making money on expiry day are slim.
And for no fault of theirs Futures traders will end up paying higher STT.
haha , that’s the point , if there is no intraday option trading allowed, how will u get the volume in nifty .
if u sell new contract , u need a buyer… if there is no intraday… until a some one buys ur option for hedging for long term your order will be waiting.
some body will buy option in monthly and sell option monthly - some body will chase momentum - no worry about liquidity
market is a second ocean - you dont think govt will be worry about tax and liquidity
SEBI need market need smooth - no volatility - when the weekely option introduced volatility increased in expiray day only - so SEBI need to remove those things - they will do whatever - we can adopt it - there is no way
Active investing is also risky, most retail active investors wont be able to handle extended bear markets. loan leke invest karenge in ipos and microcaps at top and then marenge.
Anyway, every year gift of uncertainty and injustice from ‘India is not a nanny state’ SEBI and ‘Tax is only doubled’ BJP govt.
I just want to relax but now i need to work more quickly on overnight/easy to execute systems.
Let everything be there as it is na. Why are you against options? what should I do then?
Okay. Now on a serious note, I welcome the changes suggested by SEBI in the best interest of the retailers.
Just one change. Impose margin even for option buying. I will tell you why. If a person was buying 25 qty of an option at Rs100, he will now buy 200qty of an option which is at 12.5.
So if I check today’s closing, 25250ce is at 89 and 25500ce is at 14. So a gambler will end up buying OTMs and lose even more frequently.
As much as I disagree with most of the things that he says on this forum, in the given discussion I partially agree with him.
Now should it be banned? Not my place to decide.
Most of them are so damn serious. People are just not happy with anything happening around them. Blame SEBI, blame government, RBI, BJP etc etc etc.
Rules of the game keep changing, if you can adapt then play otherwise find some other game.
what should I do then?
