What is a good return in FnO?

I have a capital of 50L. I have bought GILT and Liquid Funds for 40L and I am holding 10L in cash.
I do positional monthly FnO trades, completely risk managed. In FY 2024-25, I am able to generate 1 - 1.2L each month. Is that a good figure considering the capital I have invested? @Jason_Castelino

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In my opinion, it is very good. 2 percent per month from fno, and another 0.5 percent from debt funds will take your annual returns above 30 percent.

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Anything positive is good imho😂

Thank you for the assurance.

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IMHO, the “completely risk managed” part is the what you should get reviewed/analysed by other peers/experts, to ensure that there are no “blind-spots” i.e. any categories of risks that you may have missed in your calculations.

A lower circuit or upper circuit will cause limited loss. Further LC or UC will not cause additional loss. It would not happen every month, will it? What other risks am I overlooking? I am assuming here that Liquid and GILT Funds wont backstab me. Can you please elaborate?

Could you please explain how?

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wow :star_struck:

Can you please teach me so that I can become the richest person in the world in just a few years? That’s awesome :man_dancing:

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A risk-reward ratio of 1:2 justifies targeting over 15% ROI, especially considering your example of a 40L debt fund block yielding approximately 7% fixed returns. Prioritizing risk management remains crucial.

Best regards,
Gunjan Chokshi
Investallign

On paper, anything is possible. So, I am a bit skeptical about the statement made by Vampire. I am waiting for him to explain how and then analyze whether it is feasible or not

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The general consensus is that this is an extremely unrealistic expectation.
Very likely one is ignoring some form of risk which is NOT equal to risk-free.

It will be useful to back-up/justify such bold claims with examples.
Doing so will enable others to identify and highlight the risks being ignored/missed.

both georgie and Vampire are accounts created yesterday.
Either Vampire is a scam account created in response to thread, or imo more likely - both are same person.

I have come across a guy claiming 10% per day ( but laughably couldn’t scale up - don’t remember excuse). All of these numbers are completely detached from reality, only fools will go looking.

They also have such similar stats

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If you look at the world through yellow colored glasses, the whole world will look yellow. That’s it. No argument. #IYKYK

Great strategy: if you make a profit, become an intraday trader; if you’re facing a loss, turn into a long-term investor

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In this “system”

  • One potential risk is when the stock does NOT move at all.
  • Another potential risk is when a stock goes the other direction that one is “betting”.

…and what happens when the stock does not go the direction one has bet, for the next N successive days?

How many days of “the stock did not follow the direction i bet” can one survive?

  • Depends on what is the bet size for each day relative to one’s entire liquid capital.

and if one is chosing safer size of the bet
(say 5% of one’s liquid capital, so one can surivive 20 days of the market going against one’s bet )
the effective returns are relatively safer but more reasonable
(i.e. not 1% per day, but more like 0.05% per day)

Related Reading: Gambler’s fallacy.

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So, is there a chance that someday all 10 stocks could go against our trade? What should we do in that case?