All Option strategies failed strategies?

Hi @nithin

Backtested option strategies(short iron condor, short iron butterfly) and popular strategies using the OPSTRA website…Strategies that look good to study in varsity or in google failed to make money in reality

Except for short straddle and strangle(weekly series) giving a good return for 1 year but failed when tested for 5 years, not even an FD returns.

Almost all strategies failed for 5 years period…unless there are adjustments in the strategies

Your comment, please



It seems that you have finally learned how market works.

This is the truth.

But this is not the end. Market is harsh doesn’t means you cannot make money. It just means you need to improvise your strategies. I suggest you to watch Webinar for Charity by PR Sundar (Its available for free). He has very well explained why so many people fail to make money in market.

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Option sell strategies like the ones you mentioned needs adjustments and firefighting both of which need skill and extra capital. Its not as rosy as it is often painted by youtube gurus lately -


Dude, if one needs to make money in the market, it is so necessary to research and understand what moves the market… I repeat, you need to find the reasons which are moving particular asset/sector/stock. Once you notice the fundamental triggers that are moving the market, you will notice those patterns (not technical patterns) repeating every week or days.

Without prior analysis of knowing what could move markets, that particualr individuals who deploys these hopeful strategies doesnt have any idea what happens further and waits for stop loss to hit or time to move on. And ends up wasting PRECIOUS TIME. Its obviously necessary to learn what influences the market . Technical strategies are secondary or tertiary. Just opinion.


No strategy would work for you if you don’t understand what is happening in the market. This is what you analyse the markets for. You have to predict the next market movements and customise strategies in accordance with that. There is no single strategy that works in all trading conditions.


Why did you assume some plain vanilla strategy would work for years together?

Check out one of the twitter user’s strategies over the years. You have to adapt to the market. Know what works and what doesn’t work.

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how did you backtest 5 years data on opstra? I just checked and the last data available on opstra is of Jan 2019.

As the market is always moving, I believe it’s best to keep your eyes wide open to ensure that you don’t miss an important event that can have an impact on the trades you make.


It’s not easy to build a strategy that works accurately in all situations. You will have to analyse the market every time you plan to trade and if needed, make changes to it. If you don’t update with time, the market will easily eliminate you.

Bro you need to do front test not back test . hide the chart then look at the past data then analysis and predict what can happen next , set target and SL and then go forward with available data , check with minimum 3 years of data and you will know in different market different things work and when that same market condition arrives again it starts to work.

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Market is volatile, so try to make your own strategies and make them flexible because sometimes you’ll notice the market is not moving in your favour. At that point, you will have to make some instant changes.
To overcome such a volatile situation, it is necessary to constantly monitor the market.

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@Dislodge @Harsha2 @GoutamHebbar @t7support

hai guys , i am 12 + years trading in option market, i am making 50% return every year , the same profit i invest in bankbees , nifty bees and juniour bees etf - every month

if you backtest the option strategy - every thing will show awesome profit - yes correct its will not come in reality -
i also go through these algo execution option strategy for one year - whatever shows in back test or not same - i am quit algo also

i am believe manual trading i am happy - i am just using one strategy , that is iron condor with adjustment - because i am full time option trader - and i will do weekly option selling also far away in call option - these two thing only working perfectly - but for adjustment you need good capital to come out with out loss -
i have 1 crore + capital - so i always ready for firefighting in option selling
Mind it fire fighting work only in option selling - fire burning only happen in option buying


No fire to douse in option buying.

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Guys assume exception from market per month 3.5% permonth and 7 % from debt and money market

yearly we can achieve 50% without any tension , i am not intrested in intraday trading
intraday trading is really injury to wealth because TAX and brokerage most of the profit will be eaten

i am maximum 20 transtation in option sellling - every month profit is 3 lakhs - brokerage and tax will be 6 k plus thats all

always try to make profit in less transtation otherwise goverment will take all your money through tax like
GST,CGST,SGCT, Exchange transtation charge , SEBI turn over , brokergae, (optional- Clearing charges ) for every trade


this month already made good profit , see the charges , i am encourging every body dont do intrady - its will not take you anywhere- hope understand


Are you planning to shut the business of brokers or what? :rofl: :rofl:


This is why they tell us to keep learning and improving when we trade. The unpredictable nature of the market makes it important for us to make updates to our strategy.

Which options are you selling that allows you to make risk free 3.5% each month?
May I know which debt or money market funds are returning 7%?

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well, don’t get offended.

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Hmm, you have an eye for detail. But how it works with all your hair down and covering your eyes?