Console tags (beta): Trading journal & tracking goals

Looks like console 2.0 was not tested :no_mouth:
Earnest request to fix it quickly, as I have some basic processes using this trade data, to create a ST/LT portfolio for me in the absence of this feature in Zerodha.

Hi @ShubhS9 !!
It is not trades we want to segregate, but quantity that we want to allocate to ST/LT portfolio.
Right @Maverick_Shrader ?

Trades can come and go in a FIFO manner, and one has to keep updating tags. But if we allocate a particular qty to ST/LT portfolio, irrespective of the trades, our qty can be kept safely.

OR, are you planning to have a tag filter in the SELL window? Even that will not work, as sell will follow FIFO methodology.

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@ShubhS9

@sijick exactly it’s about the quantity. For example I bought few shares of sbi at 170 rs say, now I want to hold it for the long term. Also I want to buy few SBI shares for positional trading at say 300 rs and sell them at 450 rs, so I wanted to know is there anything to segregate this as buying at 300 rs will ruin my 170 rs average price which I wanted to keep for long term. So basically a way to seperate long term holding and average price of a stock and short term holding of the same stock without affecting the average price of any.

Hope you get my point.

I guess this is not possible as selling will follow FIFO . may be using sep account for positional and long term on same stock will help.

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I am not from Zerodha, but I think it will not be possible to keep the average price at 170 Rs, unless you have 2 demat accounts for both ST/LT portfolios. “FIFO” will remove the older stock from your portfolio with a profit of (450-170), and your average price will go up to 300. (assuming you have 1 qty each for 170 Rs and 300 Rs). This is the truth about trades anywhere.

What I am requesting Zerodha is to at least provide the feature to enable user to segregate the ST/LT qty in a separate custom portfolios; similar to the currently available small case/kite portfolios.

Another member of the forum recommended a workaround of sorts for this -

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@TheGouda,
Tag creation is not working for me. Few days back I was able to create tags. Now for some pending stocks if I try to assign tags, it says tagging in progress and I wait for couple of mins and refresh the page, but the stock is not getting tagged.

You can tag the breakdown of the stock separately (if 1 holding is acquired using multiple trades), but you can’t manually breakdown your holding into the quantity you wish. At least not for now.

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Ah yeah, like I just explained above, you can only tag if you have a breakdown. This is on our list of things to do.

Thanks @Prayag for researching and finding out a work around.

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No, it won’t work that way, buy avg is calculated based on total buys, even here it follows FIFO.

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@nithin Glad to know it is on your “to do” list !!
Have been hearing this since I joined Zerodha family (Sept 2019).

Waiting eagerly to move my LT holdings from the second top broker, whom you toppled. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Even if the trades were broken down, it will not help for the portfolio segregation use case; as I explained in my earlier post. FIFO is the spoilsport.

Even if you tag the portfolio as short and long term, FIFO will still apply. If this is about taxation, you just have to maintain a segregated portfolio separately. This tagging won’t help you for that.

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Console>Reports>Tradebook>CSV Download is still not working in “Console 2.0” How can you release a new product without testing !!

I am very upset :rage: I cannot believe you are taking so much time to enable this back again.

@nithin pls guide your team; as my processes are dependent on this csv file.

yes agree, for taxation, it makes sense to maintain different accounts. But people here want to block their holding for LT, while the unblocked ones can be traded; all the while looking at two separate holding portfolios, as we have for small case and kite.

@Nakul @TheGouda Can you.

Apologies. This is being looked at. We’ll update here as soon as it is fixed.

@nithin @Nakul @siva Although you have launched new console 2.0 i am ABSOLUTELY NOT thrilled about it as my LIQUIDBEES issue has not been fixed to date even after having a ticket open in the system for over 1 year, raising the issue here previously with you guys on tradingqna too. You can yourself view this ticket issue in your system: #20200219475171

NO RESOLUTION AND NO ONE IS EVEN CONCERNED !!

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Sorry for this, getting this checked.