That’s a dumb take. While I agree they could have more developers working on it, AI slop can’t be used in a production environment with lakhs of users that too with money on the line. It’s the edge cases that contribute to quality/stability and that’s exactly where AI would fail miserably.
@BB789 what are you saying man, the only reason AI become what it is today is because of it increases software development speed to 10 fold.
What else do you think these AI companies survive on?
Use of AI other the software development is still in early stage.
AI can’t think itself, but if you tell it what do you want it does an excellent job.
If you have any other proof to contradict, pls share.
such a dumb implementation.
quick basket doesn’t have analyse button or option. for quick strategy make when we use/need zerodha quick basket to add multiple scripts buy/sell.
to use analyse features either you have to use all basket with adding 1 by 1 script or use sensibull.
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What do you think is the most time consuming part of software development? Writing boilerplates or thinking or problem solving?
Right.
So, knowing that existing users will “remain stuck with them” as long as they ensure simplicty and stability,
why would they chase “developing new features faster” at the risk of their current USP simplicity/stability,
and risk losing some (most?) of their existing customers? 
Because there is some limit to waiting as well, zerodha’s biggest revenue is from intraday orders, and they don’t provide an option to set target for intraday orders, this is 2026!! What is the point of all the gyaan on retail profitability and loss making percentage if they do not allow placing intraday orders with sl? You cannot place sl while punching new order in options intraday!! You have to place a buy order than go through multiple steps to place sl, again this is 2026!! Many are switching btw, stability is being provided by other brokers with these essential features. The reason people ask these things in this forum is because there is some level of loyalty and trust that traders have towards zerodha and nithin kamath, and this level of incompetence is truly shocking, i wish to return to zerodha btw, i don’t think most will
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This is the way. 
Understandable.
However, these are misplaced expectations, IMHO. 
Again this IS the way.
One goes and explores what else is on offer, and…
- …either finds a better match and sticks to it
- …or comes back and is happy that the alternatives are worse.
AFAICT, there is no one-size-fits-all product.
Each vendor/offerring is somewhere uniquely positioned on the spectrum of compromises.
Folks satisfied with the set of compromises of their vendor should happily stick with their vendor.
While i agree with discussing/proposing features.
I do not see why one would be shocked or think of the rate of updates as incompetence.
At this point of time, it appears to be a deliberate choice.
One that is hopefully not changing anytime soon,
for the sake of users that are with Zerodha specifically for the set of compromises they have chosen.
I don’t think asking essential features is miss placed expectations, the reason i want these features in zerodha and wish to trade in zerodha is because of privacy concerns and trust and other brokers have failed to develop because of shady practices
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Right.
But, that’s not what i said (or meant to say) in my above comment.
If one is unhappy with the offerrings of Zerodha
continuing to place loyalty and trust in Zerodha and Nithin Kamath
is not a logical decision (rather an emotional, “ignore harsh-reality hoping it will go away” one).
This is what i mean by misplaced expectations.
Absolutely.
and i believe (please note that this is an opinion by definition, not a fact)
that the current rate of development of features of Zerodha
is a result of Zerodha choosing to minimize the chances of something occuring
that can risk eroding this trust placed in Zerodha.
As i said, i have switched already because zerodha’s current offering doesn’t fit my trading style, at the same time it is not wrong to expect some essential features that benefit lot of traders and will allow me to return because of my own reasons like trust that i have developed for the platform. Stability and faster rate of development for essential features can exist together, this is what most people are complaining about
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…and i believe Zerodha is insisting they cannot.
(based on the interactions on this forum, this has been the case for years now.)
Question to any of the folks insisting that it is possible
Do you have any insight into the internal development and management practices at Zerodha,
or other organizations operating in a similar domain or at a similar scale ?
If yes, please do share what you think Zerodha might be overlooking
i.e. how to ensure a faster pace of feature development in their offerings
without risking any missteps that may lead to situations which can erode user-trust.
This logic is exactly the trap shown in the BlackBerry (2023) movie.
There’s a great scene where the founder says, “I’m not interested in what people want. I’m interested in what they need.”
Zerodha is playing that same game. They think we only “need” a stable and simple app. But in a fast-moving market, having the latest features is no longer a “want”—it’s a “need.”
BlackBerry also thought they were the “adults in the room” because their phones were secure and stable. They looked down on others. But then the world moved on, and suddenly, “boring and stable” wasn’t a feature anymore—it was a bug.
You can stay “stuck” with a platform for a while, but eventually, the frustration of what’s missing starts to hurt more than the comfort of staying. If you don’t evolve, even the most “stable” product eventually becomes a museum piece.
Again #NoOffence, just giving my view on what’s happening here.
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I believe development for some essential features like auto slicing, oco orders, trailing sl was delayed because of stubbornness not because of stability concerns, they kept arguing that these features are algos which are against regulations while every other broker implemented nice and clean
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Right. Blackberry is a good example to discuss.
Would you agree that the folks who were ranting on Blackbery forums earlier
that the latest version of their favorite chat application was not supported yet on their Blackberry device, were better served exploring alternative mobile devices like Android and Windows Phone?
(in hindsight, one of the alternatives was a dead-end, and the other a better viable alternative for their mobile device needs in the near future)
At the same time folks who very happy with Blackberry’s offerings (and choice of compromises) continue to do so,
not in the form of mobile phones and tablets anymore
but in the form of the digital offerings in automotive vehicles with advanced functionality. (Read QNX OS).
Do you see how a broker that has (or even perceives that they have) less to lose,
can afford to take an aggressive stance and proceed in the midst of unclear regulations?
While Zerodha would choose to be conservative in their interpretation of the regulations to avoid risking a disruption to their existing user-base due to any blocks/bans/fines on them for any regulatory violations.
Well then i will stop complaining and stick to my current broker, just letting them know they are losing lots of customers like me who would have preferred trading with zerodha If only they could not delay some extremely basic features mentioned
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Tcf on mobile is must. As soon as possible. I do intraday on dhan because of this feature. Do needful.
They don’t care.
My prediction is that eventually in coming few years Z will move away from active intraday traders.
Reasons would be various excuses disguised as prudent business decesions.
But the main reason would be they will not be able to catch up with the fast moving intraday trading scene.
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True, they are clearly moving towards passive market participants, good that alternatives exist with better tools
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I am also planning to move to others broker. I think it’s done with zerodha. TFC mobiles is must but i don’t know why they understand it.
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hey (@siva), Could you please share an update on when OCO (One Cancels the Other) orders are expected to be implemented on the platform?